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hey hellfish wann willst du denn da rüber? schon irgendwas genaues geplant? ich flieg nämlich am 8.sep nach guatemala und will von dort dann durch zentralamerika ziehen….
mfg
wollte mal ein Lob auf Hellfish loswerden. Du kümmerst Dich ja wirklich um Infos und stellst sie hier rein. Ich habe das Gefühl, dass meine Liste wo ich noch überall hinwill noch um einige Länder länger geworden ist.
Viel Spass
„…Nosara has a great wave for beginning surfers, as the break is relatively gentle and there is a sand bottom (no reef or rocks).
You can find accomodations here ranging from $25-$75/night. Most everything is within walking distance, so you don’t really need a car, but we can bring one in for you OR we also offer golf carts for rent.
Some hotel links:
http://www.cafedeparis.net/
http://www.gildediguana.com/
http://giardinotropicale.com/
http://www.blewdogs.com/index.htmIt’s safe here – I have no idea about Peru, as I’ve never been there.
You can probably live on about $20/day for food- UNLESS, you drink a lot of beer, then plan to spend more…“
Hey shakin_roga,
vielen Dank!Finds irgendwie selbstverständlich dass man die Infos in bestimmten Kreisen (na ja außer Surfern interessiert des ja eh keinen…) teilt, denn Trips in andere Länder leben (vorallem wenn man zum erstenmal hinkommt) von den „sogenannten“ Insidertips. Sozusagen das Salz in der „Travelsuppe“…!!! Und große Geheimnisse verraten wir hier ja auch nicht…
Viel Spaß beim lesen und es wird bestimmt noch der eine oder andere Tip und Trick dazukommen…
Grüße nach Düsseldorf!
hey hellfish wann willst du denn da rüber? schon irgendwas genaues geplant? ich flieg nämlich am 8.sep nach guatemala und will von dort dann durch zentralamerika ziehen….
mfgHey Defton, cool, cool,…muss leider noch ein ganzes Jahr warten 🙁 !!! Bin bis Ende April durchgehend in Praktika fürs Studium eingespannt, dann nen Semester weiterstudieren und dann gehts los. Machst Du nen Surftripp oder einfach nur ne Tour/oder beides? Wie lange bleibst Du? Wenn Du irgendwelche ganz speziellen Fragen zu Mittelamerika hast, kann ich mich erkundigen. Ne Freundin war für ein halbes Jahr unten (leider nicht zum Surfen)!
Wieviel kostet eigentlich dein Flug?Grüße
Ich weiß es ist noch ein Weilchen hin…aber ich bin jetzt schon so begeistert von der Süd-bzw. Zentralamerika Surftripidee (und man kann nie llang genug finanziell davor planen), dass ichs auf jeden Fall durchziehen werde!!!
Also wer sich sagt, dass ist genau mein Ding und mitkommen will (oder plant mitzukommen; was in nem Jahr ist kann man ja leider nie so genau sagen…) ist herzlich eingeladen und soll sich einfach mal melden!!! Vielleicht startet ja dann ein richtiges Surfteam 😆 …
Ziehe irgendwann für ca. 2 Monate im Zeitraum zwischen Juli, August und September 2006 los!
Also cu next year in Mittelamerika!!!
Grüße…
Are there spots for let´s say „advanced beginners“ with unocuous beach
breakes.
(my surf-experience: two weeks surfcourse at Sagres/Portugal and a two weeks
surf trip through Portugal, i´m able to take off in a „small“ green wave
with a longboard, but now i have a 6´10 and it causes still problems.)„Man, i`ve only been to the north region, wich is known for heavy,
barreling, hardcore reef breaks. I don`t think you should surf there..
If i were you, I would consider surfing Pichilemu. Try to find out more
about this region… I Know people who have been there, and as far as I know it way easier to surf than all the other waves in Chile. Other thing you
should consider is that Chile is very consistent, tha means you have 6+ ft
waves all year long.“What kind of budget do you need for the daily-life (food, accomaodation)??? I don´t need a hotel…
To get around, do you need a 4wheel drive or is possible to take a bus or to rent a cheap car???„About the 4 WD,it depends where you are going to stay. Chile is
looooooooooooooooong country (take a look at the maps)… You probably
will stick in One or Two regions (don`t go to Arica or Iquique up north,
too hardcore)
And a decent meal costs like 3-4 dollars. Accomodation depends on the city, but is not that expensive…from 5-15 dollars“Is it dangerous to travel through Chile/Peru? because of crime…
I don`t think so. Peru is a nice country, with good weed and WAY EASIER
waves than chile. I think you have better chances of scoring nice, long
waves @ Peru. Chile is way heavier and dangerous. But Both places have
good waves. If you want paradise, consider going to panama (been there
too)..Is it a problem not to be able to speak Spanish???
„Hmmm….tough question. IT is better to know a little bit of spanish. On
big cities or tourist zones u can speak some english, but don`t expect that all the time…“How is the weather during July, August and September???
„again depends on the region. The North is dry and Sunny all year long
(atacama Desert u know…). BUt for sure the water will be snowcold,
since its winter in the southern hemisphere“Is there any area you would commend to stay/disadvise to stay???
„If i were you I would stick to Pichilemu, perhaps know Santiago. If u
consider going up north (to Arica lets say) maybe u can surf some
beachbreaks, but they are not that good you know..“
„MAn, reading again your mail i reconsidered some things.
YOu should not go to chile.. even pichilemu or PEru will be too hardcore for
your surfing experience.
If you wanna have a great time, surf some sunny and cool beachbreaks, and
even take some surf courses… I strongly recommend you Costa Rica, In
CEntral America. Caribbean Paanama is also great , but in february/march.
There is this zone in Costa Rica with the best beachbreaks ever, near
hermosa. check out this link:
http://www.rovercam.com
That is a surf camp situateed at the Loma del Mar Surfcamp, at the Pacific
side of Costa Rica.
as you can see here, they have nice perfect waves for advanced beginners
(here in Brazil you need to surf for 3 years to be an advanced beginner,
jajaja) all year long: http://rovercam.com/cgi-bin/publish/index.shtmlYou can find plenty of info At the website. But believe me, you will surf
way more waves in a week there than in a year in chile…“
Are there spots for let´s say „advanced beginners“ with unocuous beach breakes.
ANS: THE GULF AREA COUNTS WITH OVER 10 DIFFERENT SURF BREAKS AT 1 HR FROM PANAMA CITY.
Do you know any cheap and good oppurtunity to take a surf-course during the first week to refresh my surfing ability? (last time I went surfing is going to be about two years ago)
ANS: WE CAN PROVIDE LESSONS FOR $25 PER PERSON PER HOUR WITH LONG BOARD.
What kind of budget do you need for the daily-life (food, accomaodation)??? I don´t need a hotel…
ANS: LODGES CHARGE IN BETWEEN $10 TO $15 PER NIGHT PER PERSON AND MEALS ARE AROUND 2.50 TO 3.00 USD
To get around, do you need a 4wheel drive or is possible to take a bus or to rent a cheap car???
ANS: WE PROVIDE TOUR GUIDES AND VEHICLES FOR THE SAME YOU WOULD BE PAYING TO RENT A NICE 4X4 VEHICLE.
Is it dangerous to travel through Panama? because of crime…
ANS: PANAMA HAS A VERY LOW CRIME RATE…HOWEVER, IS ALWAYS BETTER TO TRAVEL WITH SOMEONE THAT KNOWS THE ISOLATED AREAS.
Is it a problem not to be able to speak Spanish???
ANS: IT IS VERY HARD TO FIND ENGLISH SPEAKING PEOPLE ANYWHERE OUTSIDE THE CITY.
How is the weather during July, August and September???
ANS: THESE MONTHS ARE IN THE TRANSITION OF DRY TO WET SEASON, LOTS OF WEATHER CHANGES DURING THE DAY…
Is there any area you would commend to stay/disadvise to stay???
VENAO, THE GULF…
„…My name is Claudia Pizarro. I live in northern Chile Arica.
Related to your questions , first of all I have to admit that there are good spots in my city which is located at about 50 km. from Perú. To be honest in Perú there are good waves but you have to be careful if you are going there. Anyway Chile is considered as one the safest countries in SouthAmerica.So do not hesitate to come over here.
My family owns a Hostel (Hostelling international) So if you want you could stay at our place . we charge about $ 14 dollars per person (price includes american breakfast and all the rooms have private facilities , cable tv, frigobar and hot water) there is also a bar where you can invite some friends over if you want. In other words staying at your place is like to be at home away from home)
On the other hand food is kind of cheap here . For example a good menu might cost about$ 6 dollars (which includes salad,main course and a dessert). Public transportation is also very cheap radio cabs charge only $ 1.50 dollars for taking you anywhere within the city) . Also there are buses which cost only $ 40 cents.There are a population of about 180.000 inhabitants here.
There are good spots for begginers with no dangerous waves or sea life.(no sharks )I have a close friend of mine who is a very experienced surfer (he’s been doing it for about 18 years!!!!). No he is 36 .He is respected among the „locals“ and he is starting a surfing school. He’s got all the equipment required for surfing lesson (wetsuits and softboards). he charges $65 dollars for six lessons, equipment,transportation and lunch included.
In case you want to take some lessons with him. please let me know in advance to get you the right size of board and wetsuit. For this , I need your height,weight. In Arica you don’t need a four wheel drive to get to the surfing spots. we also have two bikes for rent which you can use to go around town which is quite small.
Well, please contact me in case of any doubt.P.S: please visit http://www.hostelling.cl our place is called „Casa de huespedes Doña Inés“…
„…Hey is you need more information let you message in the foro of http://www.aricasurf.cl .North of Chile is perfect in winter session. You need 4-3 wetsuit and you will lhave diferent king of waves.
And you can take class in swell school with Duilio Milanesi…“
„…There are many spots in Peru to surf, but for what you are telling me of your experience so far, I think you are mostly a beginner. We can do lots of stuff, let me prepare a package for you, tell me how many peolple, or is it only you? About the car, I think its cheaper to go by bus. Theres a lot of travelling in Peru’s coast, mostly to the north were the wave are because of tourism. July, august and september its kind of chilly in Lima but in the north, because its near the equator is hot, so don’t worry, that is were the good waves are. Travelling around Peru is not expensive so don’t worry, and about crime, just be caution like any place else. Tell me exactly what do you have in mind i’ll prepare you a surf trip. Specially how many days. Thanks again for writting, hope to be in contact soon, best wishes, Rocio…“
„…in Chile there are a lot of places to go surfing as we have a long coast, I live in Santiago it is the capital city the sea is about 100 kms away, the most known place to surf in Chile is Pichilemu , it is the best place for beginners and you can advance from there, Pichilemu is about 200 kms away from Santiago, I know a surf instructor his name is Elvis he lives in Pichilemu he has a surf shop where he also gives classes and rents all the equipment you need , last year a friend from Germany came to visit us and he stayed with Elvis for some weeks, he had agood time ,if you want i can send you his e-mail later, one important detail the temperature of the water here is cold I don`t remember the exact temperature, but to surf in pichilemu you need a 4/3 mm wet suit at least sometimes in summer a 3/2 mm can do too. Well thats for an indroduction for now, I will be very glad to receive any questions or doubts, you asked something about Peru I haven`t been to Peru yet so I can`t help you there…“
„…I´ve surfed around Central America in 2003 –
Panama, Costa Rica and El Salvador – Low Prices and
good surf.In Panama I surfed Santa Catalina for a week. It´s a great spot, never goes down 3 feet, and the waves are really good. Problem is there´s only one take off spot and it gets really crowded, with both locals and
travellers surfing hard and aggro. I wouldn´t recommend it for beginners. Costa Rica is a lot mellower and has more options. Plus it´s safer and
there are girls (locals and foreigners) here and there. I would recommend Costa Rica instead.Maybe you could combine both in one trip and take your own conclusions. After all, although it´s really crowded, Santa Catalina is one of the best waves in central america. It´s better, more consistent and heavier than most Costa Rica spots. I would recommend you to start in Costa Rica, so you can „get in shape“, and then go down to Panama (Santa Catalina), where you´ll need it, since you have to paddle a lot out there. The waves break far from the beach.
Another thing: In Santa Catalina there´s only surf and nothing else. The place is a very small town and far away from everything. The spots in Costa Rica have more options if you want to party, meet girls or do other stuff.
About your specific questions:
. Are there spots for let´s say „advanced beginners“
with unocuous beach breakes?Costa Rica is full of those spots, in places like
Tamarindo, for example. Panama not so much.Do you know any cheap and good opportunity to take a
surf-course during the first week to refresh my
surfing ability? (last time I went surfing is going to
be about two years ago)There are no surf classes in Santa Catalina,
since it´s not a beginner´s spot. I would recommend
Tamarindo in Costa Rica. It´s full of beginners and
surf classes, in a really mellow atmosphere.What kind of budget do you need for the daily-life
(food, accomaodation)??? I don´t need a hotel…Panama:
– Casa Blanca surf camp in front of main break:
10 US$ a night, plus optional US$10 for 3 (nice) meals
in the camp.
Costa Rica (Surf areas): Rooms go from US$4 to
US$25 a night, depends the kinda confort you´re going
for. Food is cheap too, US$3 – US$6 a meal.To get around, do you need a 4wheel drive or is
possible to take a bus or to rent a cheap car???– Panama: Buses are the way to go, stay in the same
surf camp for long periods.Costa Rica: Lotsa spots that are not so consistent
as Panama, so a car to drive around to check each one
is definitely a good thing. 4 wheel drive required,
roads are terrible, specially during the rain season.
(may – november)Is it dangerous to travel through Panama? because
of crime…Panama city is definitely sketchy. The surf areas
are fine. I felt safer in Costa Rica.Is it a problem not to be able to speak Spanish???
I saw plenty of non-spanish speaking americans
getting by…How is the weather during July, August and
September???Rains, but not as much as october and november,
which are the most wet months.. Is there any area you would commend to
stay/disadvise to stay???Panama City is very dodgy. Watch out there. The
visit to the Panama canal is really cool, I totally
recommend it. It´s an incredible engineering feat.
🙄
„…i dont know central america, i know is more expensive but the waves are good, i can recomend you brasil, is a beautiful place, girls are really nice and the waves are perfect not dangerous, lot of beach breaks good weather. in south brasil is Florianopolis, there is no crime adn you have more than 80 beaches for surf…“
„…-I DON’T agree about Panama city being dodgy/sketchy/dangerous. Especially if you are staying in the youth hostels which are located in the banking district (along with all the major hotels).
As for Venezuela vs. Costa Rica vs. Panama
I have never surfed venezuela, but it is DEFINTELY more dangerous than Panama and Costa Rica combined! And from what I understand, it is cold and BIG waves. But again, I ahve never been there.
As for Costa Rica, I am sure you can find the kind of waves you are looking for. The only place I surfed in CR was at Porto Viejo near the Panamanian boarder. The waves weren’t great there and the down side to CR os taht there are WAY more tourists. It really depends on what you are looking for.
Panama is much more chill and less developed. In teh sense that: when you are at the beach, there aren’t any real clubs and restaurants where it is packed with tourists. It is more like, locals getting together, having a beer, chillin out. Especially at Palmar. There is alwyas a crowd of cool guys and gals at Russel’s house on weekends.
If you are planning to surf for 2 months, you really can do both Costa Rica and Panama. That way you see different things and experience different atmospheres. Both are cool, but WAY diferent.
AS for the car: I meant to say, take the economy car, standard shift (manual shift). It is usally a Nissan or Toyota. They are good little cars. I found the best quality and service I got was from BUDGET-rent-a-car, but DOLLAR is cheaper. And if you aren’t going driving all over the country, and parking for long periods, might as well rent from teh cheaper place.
Budget: Accomodations at a surf camp can run anywhere between $10USD – $ 30USD a night. You might want to bring a tent and do some camping as well.
Food: you can get a Panamanian meal (rice, chicken, salad) for $2. Beer is usually under $2. If you go to the restaurant at the hotels though, you will be paying more. The one at Palmar is GOOD food for reasonable. A full fried (big) fish and plantans goes for like $7. So, it is a nice change.
The grocery store food (veggies and fruits, meat) is comparable to Canada/USA prices. Not cheap.
Transportation by bus to the beach $2.50. Taxis in the city from$1 if you stay in th downtown area to $5 to go to the canal. They will try to scam more out of you though, bcuz you are a „tourist“.
Bus to Costa Rica from Panama is between $14 and $18.
Hostel in Panama city is about $10.
Hotels in Porto Viejo Costa Rica (atlandtic side) go from $8 -$15 for a nice place.
Car rental: about $35 a day (24hours).
Movies in Panama City $2.80…“
„…::: yeah, CR for sure is more crowded (specially at high season and at the more famous spots), and a little more expensive… But at Hermosa beach u have miles of perfect, warm-water beachbraks, so you wil gorget the crowd factor. I`ve been to Bocas del Toro (caribbean panama, full of reefs) again this year, at february, and i can tell you it was very crowded. And the caribbean is expensive…
So i`ll recommend u going to CR, even if u have to stay shorter (because of $). Panamas only got serious reefbreaks (Dumpers, Carenero @ Caribbean from dec-feb and Santa Catalina, Morro Negrito, Venao from mar-dec) and shorebreaks, but at CR you can score some perfect beachbreaks (as good as Panama reefs) and maybe get some barrels. without all the blood that comes from reefbreaks ;)…I know people from venezuela, surfers. Thre are some waves there, but i`ll
only recommend if you`re on a budget tour, cause the waves aren`t as good as those you`ll find at panama, cr, galapagos, etc.. You can also find some good beachbreaks @ jamaica…“
„…Bro, Panama is one of the world’s best places to surf. IT’s so cheap that you won’t bealive it, crime is everywhere in this world and if you come surfing with us, you will be surfing with real good surfers that will help you out anytime. In fact this is so good that I have no idea when I’ll travel somewhere else out of panama for surfing. Here I have it all. INdo waves, hawaiian waves, whatever kind of wave you want we have it.
ANything we can do for you just let me know.
Keep on surfing Bro…“
aus Forum http://www.onshore.ch:
„…Das Land kann so in etwa in drei Surftparts aufgeteilt werden: Der Nordpazifik (Guanacate-Nicoya. In der Hauptreisezeit sehr turistisch und überfüllt), der Südpazific (Punta Arenas) und die Karibik. Die grösseren Surfstädte, wo du zum Beispiel einfach an Surfmaterial oder Ersatz kommst, sind Jaco (super geeignet für Costumshapes, Neuboards und Occasionen. Es sind auch ein paar weltklasse Spots schnell erreichbar), Tamarindo (Scheiss Turikaff, fast alles ist überteuert und in der Haupsaison ist es platsch voll) und Puerto Viejo (Ein easy Reggeakaff mit coolen Leuten, super Wellen und einem ganz ganz genialen Karibikflair). Das Wasser ist im übrigen das ganze Jahr Badewassertemperatur (26° – 30° Grad), die tropisch warme Luft bläst auf Guanacaste meistens offshore und zaubert phenomenale Conditionen. Die Besten Wellen triffst du in der Regenzeit (nördliche Hemisphäre, bei uns meistens sowas wie „Sommer“. Mai bis November) an der Pazifikseite an und in der Trockenzeit (bei uns meistens „Winter“. Dezember bis April) an der Karibikseite – also wirst du eigentlich „immer“ etwas zum Surfen finden…“ aus Forum http://www.onshore.ch
„…However I did learn how to surf in Peru. I was there during December/
January (which I realize is different then your time frame). For me it was
a really great place to go. It is a lot warmer then Chile. You need a
proper wetsuit if you want to surf in Chile.As for budget, Peru is a lot cheaper then Chile. I was in South America for
9 months and Chile was by far the most expensive overall country. Chile is
colder, so harder to sleep on the beach, but still possible. If you don’t
move around, you can live very cheaply in Peru. You can rent a house for a
month whichi s much cheaper then day to day. for day to day I was usually
finding betwseen 10-15 sols. I think thats about 6 dollars candian, but you
should check the conversion table.Also if you get a central spot then you
can usually take local buses close to the location of the surf. If you some
money to spare, a car is really useful. I would bring a tent. I enjoy
sleeping in a tent, but you are planning to go during the winter. Food is
inexpensive if you make it or eat local „menu del dia“.I don’t know much about surf courses. I know you can find them in Punta
Hermosa close to Lima. You can get surf lessons at any popular surf beach
(example Mancora, Huanchaco) or ask any good surf. If you have some spare cash, take a lesson.If you speak the language it helps. You will be forced to learn some
phrases, but you’ll get buy. All I can say is travelling chahges once you
learn the language. Your possibilities expand. You should at least learn
some fundamentals before going. It also shows a little more respect for the
county. No sweat if you can’t.The places i went to in Peru where Punta Hermosa area, Huanchaco, Pacasmayo, Lobitos, Cabo Blanco, Organos and Mancora…“
Hey Defton, cool, cool,…muss leider noch ein ganzes Jahr warten 🙁 !!! Bin bis Ende April durchgehend in Praktika fürs Studium eingespannt, dann nen Semester weiterstudieren und dann gehts los. Machst Du nen Surftripp oder einfach nur ne Tour/oder beides? Wie lange bleibst Du? Wenn Du irgendwelche ganz speziellen Fragen zu Mittelamerika hast, kann ich mich erkundigen. Ne Freundin war für ein halbes Jahr unten (leider nicht zum Surfen)!
Wieviel kostet eigentlich dein Flug?Grüße
bin bis jetzt noch nie gesurft, aber habs auf jeden fall vor, und je nach dem wie es mich packt, wird die tour entsprechend verlaufen;)
also warscheinlich bleib ich 6monate, dass ich zum somsem mit dem studium anfangen kann…in welchen ländern war deine freundin genau?
ich werd auf jeden fall in guatemala starten und nach mexiko gehen, evtl davor aber auch noch nac el salvador…
mein flug hat 890€ gekostet, hab ihn gute 2monate vorher bei travel overland gebucht, 1monat zuvor wär der preis noch bei 700 oder so gelegen, also auf jeden fall früh buchen! und bei mir isses jetzt so das ich den rückflug kostenlos vom termin her umbuchen könnte (iberia) das ist auch nich schlecht….
mfg!
„…Hello brother surfer. Peru is a nice place to visit, but you do have to be careful with the locals. Trust them very little. Yes a 4×4 is nice to have but not necessary. The months you are going are cold because it is winter time down there. Take a spider wetsuit if you are a beginner, Peru is the best place to learn; you can go to lima and surf. I would recommend Makaha Beach. It is great and if you want a little bigger waves go to Punta Roquitas which is walking distance from there. DO NOT DRINK THE WATER! Always have bottled water and don’t eat anything from street vendors. It always helps if you know some Spanish . 10 dollars will get you a long way per day. Places I recommend visiting are Mancora, Caboblanco, and Asia, but all the coast of Peru is awesome. Have fun, be careful. You are going to love it!…“
What the **** is goin‘ on here ?!
bin bis jetzt noch nie gesurft, aber habs auf jeden fall vor, und je nach dem wie es mich packt, wird die tour entsprechend verlaufen;)
also warscheinlich bleib ich 6monate, dass ich zum somsem mit dem studium anfangen kann…in welchen ländern war deine freundin genau?
ich werd auf jeden fall in guatemala starten und nach mexiko gehen, evtl davor aber auch noch nac el salvador…Ganz sicher bin ich mir nicht aber ich weiß, dass se auf jeden Fall in Guatemala, Mexiko, Nicaragua, El Salvador war!!! Hab neulich Fotos gesehen!Echt klasse dort…des mit nem Trip vor dem Studium is ne super Idee! War nach meinem Abi auch nen halbes Jahr unterwegs…mich hats nach Australien verschlagen!So ein Trip ist das Beste was man machen kann…es wird einen nie wieder loslassen. Egal ob man nun surft oder nicht…falls Du was über die Länder brauchst schreib einfach!!!Wünsch Dir schon mal viel Spaß und ne tolle Reise!Kannst ja mal berichten wies war:-)…
Grüße
Stefan
What the **** is goin‘ on here ?!
Hier ist alles mögliche los 😯 …!!!
ja das sind genau die länder die mir auch so vorschweben… also über infos wäre ich sehr dankbar, kannst mir gerne auf meine e-mail schreiben (defton at hotmail.de), vielleicht kannst mir auch die e-mail von deiner freundin geben…
mfg
Was machst du eigentlich so hellfish? Ich meine außer Berichte aus Artikeln ins Forum zu kopieren ❓ ❓ ❓
Was machst du eigentlich so hellfish? Ich meine außer Berichte aus Artikeln ins Forum zu kopieren ❓ ❓ ❓
Ich bin arbeitslos, lebe auf Kosten anderer Leute, trinke jeden Tag nen Kasten Bier und habe 8-eckige Augen weil ich nur vorm Computer sitze und nebenbei eine Packung Chips nach der anderen in mich reinstopfe 8) …!!!
Wieso fragste???
What the **** is still goin‘ on here ?
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